4D/3N Backpacking Bromo & Ijen Without A Tour (Travel Itinerary & Expenses)

Many have asked and wondered, including myself, is it possible to do Bromo and Ijen without a tour? The answer is YES! 😀

Depending on our budget and time, we can certainly do Bromo and Ijen on our own, without relying on a tour and have the luxury to manage and personalise our travel experience, besides saving a whole lot of money too! In my case, it was a short, tiring but sweet adventure! And yes, it’s safe for solo and women travellers too. Saying that does not mean we should lower down our guard though for we must at all times, be alert and cautious, wherever we are.

Most Bromo & Ijen packages offered by tour operators out there cost more than Rp. 3,000,000 per person, inclusive or exclusive of accommodation, with or without food. I know because I did my fair amount of research before embarking on my 4D/3N backpacking Bromo & Ijen trip.

I must say, all that research and planning for my Bromo & Ijen without a tour itinerary consumes a lot of my time and gave me headaches! It is far easier and convenient to skip the entire process and hassle and just book a tour, but the thought and incentive of being able to travel on our own, in our own way, at our own pace is highly rewarding! I believe I can do the same, but at a much cheaper price! I always find ways to stretch my little piggy bank as flat as it can go, but at the same time, have a good time during my travels too – which I did, many times now.


        My Bromo and Ijen without a tour journey starts and ends in Surabaya, travelling via public transport, for a duration of 3 days and 2 nights. And, instead of travelling first to Bromo, my sister and I went to Ijen and after, Bromo. The reason is because there is no train ride from Probolinggo to Banyuwangi within the stipulated time frame of mine. Given more time, I’m sure you and I could do Bromo, followed by Ijen, and even head off to the island of Bali after. The key word here is to research and plan ahead, and with minor adjustments, we’re good to go! 😉



A Scenic 7-Hour Train Ride through the East Java Countryside

        Upon our arrival at Juanda International Airport at 09:00 hours, we had a quick brunch at the cafeteria. I also bought a local 3G internet prepaid SIM pack @ simPATI for Rp. 30,000, and topped up Rp.20,000 for 1G worth of data/internet package. The SIM pack was overpriced! Read the full story here. From the airport, my sister and I took a Prima Taxi to Surabaya Gubeng Train Station @ approximately Rp. 125,000 per way. Read how to book a Prima Taxi and avoid getting scammed here.

At the train station, we bought a Sri Tanjung/174 train ticket @ 13:40 hours, travelling from Surabaya (SUB) to Karangasem (KNE) @ Banyuwangi, bypassing Probolinggo station along the way. The train ticket costs Rp. 140,000 per person @ Economy Class – decent and clean. The 7-hour long train ride was our first long distance train ride in our lives! Needless to say, my sister and I enjoyed the scenic train ride through the East Java countryside – chugging through timeless villages, endless paddy fields and lush green forests, over rivers, unexpected ravines and steep cliffs, and more! Read a detailed version of our train ride experience with more photos here.


The 10-feet High Electric Blue Sulphur Flames, Sulphuric Acid Lake & Sulphur Miners at Ijen Crater

        Our arrival at the train station was welcomed by Ganda, the proud owner of Kg. Osing Inn. It was raining heavily that night, but it didn’t dampen our spirits and our determination to hike up and down Ijen Crater to catch a glimpse of the incredible electric blue sulphur flames and sulphuric acid lake! After a quick cold shower, we went to bed early in preparation for the hike at half past midnight.

Ganda arranged an experienced and friendly guide with 5 other travellers staying at the inn for our hiking group – that helped to cut down the cost drastically. In total, my sister and I spent about Rp.450,000 for the room, guide, tipping, etc. Read my review of our basic double room at Kampung Osing Inn here.

The 1-hour jeep ride brought us to Paltuding Base which was teeming with travellers alike and sulphur miners. The entrance ticket was Rp.100,000 each. There was no camera fee, whatsoever. Wasting no time, we began our 2.5 hours hike up and down Ijen Crater to reach the foot of the acid lake where the fiery action took place. There, we spent about 2 hours at the crater, observing the sulphur miners at work while admiring the beauty of the sulphur flames from a distance.

With the right conditions, the electric blue sulphur flames soared 10-feet high up the sky to our amazement! 😀 It was truly a sight to behold! Some even went too close for comfort for the sake of a perfect shot, which is not advisable due to safety reasons.

After watching the sun rise over the lake, we swiftly made our way back to the parking lot, stopping by mid station for some light refreshments, followed by an hour’s drive back to the inn. Read a detailed version of our Ijen Crater experience with more photos (Part 1) here(Part 2) here and (Part 3) here.

Business Class Train Ride to Probolinggo
We skipped the free breakfast provided by Ganda and made a mad dash to the train station in order to catch the morning train to Probolinggo. This time, we went for the Business Class Mutiara Timur Siang/86 train @ 09:15 hours, travelling from Karangasem (KNE) to Probolinggo (PB) for the sake of experiencing a different setting and atmosphere. The train ticket costs Rp. 120,000 per person. Frankly speaking, the service provided in this class was better, but the price of the food and everything else is doubled of those in the economy class. From our experience, we prefer to travel in the economy coach for several reasons. To find out those reasons, and view more photos of the Business Class Coach, click here.


Of Scams, Persistently Aggressive Old Man & Cautious Angkot Ride to Bayuangga Bus Terminal

        Upon our arrival at Probolinggo train station, an old man came out of nowhere and offered to take us to the public bus or public bus station. In case you haven’t heard, Probolinggo is a notoriously scam-my place!! I repeat, NOTORIOUSLY SCAM-MY PLACE!! So beware, be street smart and be a smart traveller. Find out what are the Top 5 Scams in Probolinggo @ East Java that you should know here. Thus, we ignored the old man and proceeded to Information Tourist Centre located in front of the train station for help.

There, I got to know the disturbing truth of the scams in Probolinggo and East Java and why the local authorities do nothing about it. To cut the story short, my sister and I reluctantly boarded the angkot, a yellow minivan version of the local public bus parked in front of the centre.

The Yakuza-looking angkot driver whose arms were covered with tattoo and I agreed with the fare of Rp.5,000 per person (standard fare) to transport us from the train station to Bayuangga Bus Terminal. Along the way, he persistently tried to persuade us to take up the tours he suggested, but I stubbornly refused. We felt much safer when some school children boarded the angkot too and after travelling for about 15-20 minutes, we arrived safely at the bus terminal, in one piece with no missing limbs whatsoever! Read a detailed story with more photos here.


A Guardian Angel & Friendly, Helpful Locals to the Rescue!

Once at the bus station, our next public transport to Cemoro Lawang @ Mt. Bromo was either an ojek (motorcycle) or a bison (green van) ride. As foretold, many locals (mostly of Orang Madura/Madurese ethnicity) mobbed us, trying to sell their tours and services. I’ve been warned beforehand that some of the Orang Madura/Madurese can be quite hostile, intimidating and vulgar.

We ignored them and walked swiftly towards the nearest petrol station (Spbu Triwung) for directions and advice. For that, the vulgar “F*** Y**!” words were hurled at us. No kidding! We remained cool and gave them deaf ears.  At the petrol station, we found helpful locals who directed us to the bison/ojek stop located just several metres away from Depot Marinda. Wasting no time, we went straight to our destination and hung out at one of the local food stalls, while waiting for other travellers/passengers to arrive and fill up the bison.

The rent for an entire bison is Rp. 450,000 per vehicle.The amount is divided equally to the number of passengers on board. It costs about Rp. 35,000 per person for a one way, full car trip. Unfortunately, given the time we arrived there, most travellers have boarded the early morning bison up to Cemoro Lawang @ Mt. Bromo. 🙁

Out of the blue and by chance, came a man, our angel in disguise on an ojek and there were three of us now. Wanting to reach Cemoro Lawang @ Mt. Bromo before nightfall, we decided to just pack and go – a move that costs us Rp. 150,000 each for the bison ride. We paid the fare and off we went to Bromo Tengger Semeru National Park @ Tengger Village, a 1-hour journey through green paddy fields, misty alpine forests, vegetable farms, hanging cliffs and more. It was one of the most beautiful rides I have ever taken in my life! The temperature dropped drastically as we ventured higher up into the mountain and needless to say, the stench of reeking rotten eggs signalled that we were close to our destination. Read a detailed story with more photos here.


Bromo Homestay & Delightful Dinner by the Caldera

We didn’t pre-book our stay at Cemoro Lawang @ Mt.Bromo, we simply did the booking on the spot. Our new found friend and an angel in disguise, Mr. Erwin was kind enough to help my sister and I, including himself to secure a room with hot shower for the night at one of the many homestays available at Cemoro Lawang @ Mt. Bromo for Rp.250,000 a night.

We also manage to book a jeep to take us up to Gunung Penanjakan Viewpoint 1 to watch the sunrise over the Sea of Sands, Mt. Bromo and Mt. Sumeru. After that, we went for an evening walk around the village and had dinner at Cemara Indah Hotel & Lodge. Read a detailed review of Yoi Homestay and our dinner here.

We talked more, joked and laughed a lot over some food and drinks. The locally grown and brewed tea served to us was one of the best I have ever tasted in my life! The food however, was average in comparison of the spectacular view we had of the caldera and Mt. Bromo. We then bid good night and retired for the night in our respective rooms.


Spectacular Sunrise, Horse Ride, the Savannah & Teletubbies Hill of Mt. Bromo

At 3.30am in the morning, we were excitingly waiting for our jeep to pick us up. We shared the jeep with another two more travellers, a couple from Russia. The Bromo Tengger Semeru National Parkentrance fee of Rp. 220,000 per person, along with the jeep fare of Rp. 120,000 per person was collected before we boarded the jeep and off we went to Gunung Penanjakan, about an hour’s drive.

After that, we had to walk 15 minutes up the steep steps of the mountain to reach the platform of Viewpoint 1. A sea of people was already there when we arrived, nonetheless my sister and I managed to slip under the railings and secured a good spot to watch the much anticipated sunrise in peace. The sky was littered with millions of twinkling stars for us to enjoy while the illuminated Tengger village below stood silence in time.

An hour or so later, the sun began to rise, and the moment the first ray of light hits the ground, a spectacular sight was unveiled! No words could simply describe the beauty and glory of Mother Nature before us. We were mesmerised and stood in awe and delight! Everyone didn’t waste time to capture and preserve the moment in photographs. We then steadfastly made our way back to the jeep and headed straight for the caldera.

Once there, we opted to hop on the back of a horse to cross the vast and majestic Sea of Sands, bypassing a Hindu temple (Pura Luhur Poten) along the way to reach the steps of stairs at the foot of the crater. Our driver bargained and got us a return journey horse ride for only Rp. 100,000 per person. After climbing up the steep steps of stairs, my sister and I finally stood proudly at the mouth of the crater.

At that moment, we felt on top of the world! Mr. Erwin encouraged us to make a wish, which we did and we took many photos for memories too. 😀 It wasn’t long before white clouds of suffocating gas and vapour overwhelmed our lungs, signalling us to leave the place immediately.

We then hopped on the jeep and travelled to the Savannah and Teletubbies Hill for photographs. 😀 That additional journey costs Rp. 200,000 for three person. Ohh…before I forget, a toilet break costs Rp.2000 per person, per entry. Fret not, the toilets are clean and well maintained. After the tour, we made our way back to our room, packed our bags, bid farewell to Mr. Erwin, exchanged our contact numbers, and hopped on the morning bison ride back to Bayuangga Bus Terminal at 9am. This time, the bison ride fare was only Rp. 35,000 per person. Read a detailed story here.

PATAS Bus Ride Back to Surabaya @ Bungurasih Bus Terminal – Of Buskers, Pengamens & Street Sellers

Again, the moment we stepped foot in Probolinggo, a heap of men, this time neatly dressed in batik aggressively and persistently approached my sister and I, as well as other unsuspecting travellers to go to their service centre located just by the roadside nearby and sell their exorbitantly marked up bus tickets, tours and services to us. We were told by these men that there are no A/C express buses available from Probolinggo to Surabaya, only crowded and smelly public buses. Only they offer such exclusive A/C busses in Probolinggo. That is a lie!!

Knowing better, we ignored these cunning men, crossed the road and made our way back to the food stall we hung out before to get the truth and the information we needed. True enough, a comfortable and reliable A/C express bus is available in Bayuangga Bus Terminal itself, operated by Bus PATAS! The men in batik clothing quoted us a fare of Rp.80,000 per person whereas PATAS bus fare only costs Rp.30,000 per person!! My smart move saved us Rp.50,000 each!! Needless to say, my sister and I thanked the lovely people at the food stall and made our way to the bus terminal. Too bad we didn’t take any photographs of them. 🙁

Anyway, we found PATAS’ Bus information counter and the PATAS Bus at Terminal 1. Do take note that the other bus operators will try their best to fool unsuspecting visitors to board their bus. Be sure to only board the correct / genuine PATAS Bus at Terminal 1. I repeat, Terminal 1!! We boarded the right bus and waited for it to leave at 11.30am. The bus conductor boarded the bus, collected payment and issued the bus ticket accordingly on the bus itself.

In the meantime, before the bus drove off, many street sellers boarded the bus and tried to sell us many items such as packets of snacks, slices of fruits, and bottles of Aqua. A few buskers or beggars boarded the bus and begged for donations while the pengamens or street musicians sang generously and expected to receive some rupiahs from the passengers on the bus. To cut the story short, the A/C express bus ride back to Surabaya @ Bungurasih Bus Terminal was comfortable and enjoyable. Read a detailed version of our PATAS express bus ride experience with more photos here.


To Above & Beyond!

At Bungurasih Bus Terminal, we took a Blue Bird Group taxi to our guesthouse @ Krowi Inn where my sister and I spent a night there, exploring and enjoying our last day and night in the city of Surabaya before flying back to Malaysia the next day. To read my review of Krowi Inn and our Surabaya city sightseeing, click here.

That marked the end of our 3D/2N Bromo & Ijen without a tour journey – a memorable adventure of a lifetime! My sister and I will not hesitate to do it all over again, that’s for sure! Now, if anyone asks is it possible to do Bromo & Ijen without a tour? You and I both know the answer to that question. We did it and you read it here, at our humble travel blog – Erika & EvaToh Travels. 😉

Safe and happy travels, ya all!

30 Comment

  1. Val says: Reply

    Hi Erika,
    May I know what should be packed for the trip?
    Thank you!

    1. Hi Val,

      Apologies for the late reply as I was preoccupied with work.

      Basic items to pack for the trip include lightweight warm clothing, windproof/waterproof jacket, torchlight, gloves, comfortable walking/hiking shoes, raincoat (during rainy season), energy-packed snacks and sufficient drinking water. Most guides and/or tour operators to Kawah Ijen provide face masks if necessary. We travelled light with only a backpack and left out unnecessary stuff. That itself greatly improved our hiking experience to Mount Bromo and Ijen Crater.

      I hope that helps. Safe travels and enjoy your trip!

      Best regards,

  2. Sharon says: Reply

    Hi Erika! I hope this message finds you well. Very detailed series on your Bromo-Ijen adventure. My husband and I are going to do the same trip at the end of this month, and your super informative posts are quite helpful! I hope you don’t mind me asking you (probably more than) a few questions.

    How many hours does it take to travel by bus from Mount Bromo (Bayuangga) to Surabaya? Any idea how long it would take if we go by car? Is the traffic bad to and fro Surabaya? Same as you, we also have 4 days and 3 nights, and we’re planning to spend the 3rd night in Mt. Bromo area instead of in Surabaya which is why I’m asking. Our flight out of Indonesia is around 1pm, so I’m wondering what time we have to leave our hotel in Bromo.

    Looking forward to hearing from you soon. Many thanks!

    1. Hi Sharon,

      I apologise for the late reply as I was away on a long holiday and hadn’t been updating my blog as often as I wish it to be.

      With regards to your question, it takes about 2-3 hours drive (depending on the traffic) to get from Probolinggo to Surabaya (vice versa). The traffic is hectic in Surabaya especially during peak time or during the holidays/weekends, so do give yourself more travelling time and expect delays should you intend to travel during the busy hours.

      Given the info I’ve provided, you should be able to estimate the time it needs for you to travel from Mount Bromo to the airport in Surabaya. It’s advisable to travel and arrive early (at least 3-hours for international flights) in order to check-in your flight before the gate closes.

      I would make a move as early as 5am in order to arrive at the airport in time for my flight at 1pm. I rather be there early than late. 🙂

      Hope that helps. Safe travels to you and enjoy your trip!

      Best regards,

  3. JAsher says: Reply

    Great writeup of your trip to East Java! Definitely some extra things to note as I complete my planning. I know that you visited during the low season but do you know anyone who went there in May-October? With the exception of cost, would there be a huge difference between the those times of the year?

    1. Hi Jasher,

      Thanks for the kind words of encouragement, I appreciate it much. Sadly, I don’t know of anyone who went the in between May-October. From my guess, it’ll probably cost more to travel alone than in groups especially when you need to travel by van/bison. Also, prices are known to hike up during the high season, so do take note of that.

      Hope that helps. All the best and have a safe journey to East Java. Be sure to watch out for the scammers. Take care.

  4. Alex says: Reply

    This was awesome! Thank you! I’m traveling in a week and was ferociously trying to map out a trip that would allow me to do both Bromo and Ijen in this time frame. Thank you!

    1. Hi Alex,

      You’re welcome, glad it helps! Take care and be wary of the scams. With that, I wish you a safe trip and enjoy your travels. Cheers! 🙂

  5. Ellie says: Reply

    Hi erika! My hubby and i are planning to go ijen-bromo-semeru in nov and have booked our flight already. Can we check with u if u can share mr erwin’s number? Thanks!

    1. Hi Ellie,

      I am sorry, I cannot disclose the contact number of Mr. Erwin in respect of his privacy. Besides, he is not an agent or a tour guide and is definitely not from the area. He happened to visit Probolinggo/Bromo at the same time we were there. Our fortunate meeting was not prearranged at all. I hope you would understand.

      Nonetheless, I wish you and your hubby a safe and happy trip to East Java! Take care and beware of the scams. 😀

  6. Adrian Kok says: Reply

    Hi Erika,

    Possible for me to get more information on mt bromo and ijen from you?
    will be going on Aug, ticket purchased but nothing planned yet.

    possible for me to get ur whatsapp or any more convenient communication method?


    1. Hi Adrian,

      I’ve shared all information with detailed descriptions of my 4D/3N Backpacking Ijen and Bromo on my travel blog. You can read it in the links provided below:

      >> http://erikaevatohtravels.com/2015/01/4d3n-backpacking-bromo-ijen-without-a-tour-via-public-transportation-grab-go-travel-itinerary/

      >> http://erikaevatohtravels.com/2015/04/4d3n-backpacking-bromo-ijen-without-a-tour-via-public-transportation-complete-travel-itinerary-expenses/

      Should you have further enquiries, kindly drop an email to kiaora@erikaevatohtravels.com. Hope that helps and happy planning your trip! 🙂

  7. Shaun says: Reply

    Hi, thanks for the contact and advise! Keep up your good work in writing travel blog, cause its really helpful to independent traveller like you and me! Thanks again=)

    1. Hi Shaun,

      You’re welcome and thank you for the kind words of encouragement, I appreciate it much. I’m happy to know that my travel blog benefits people especially independent travellers out there. Rest assured, I’ll never stop sharing my travel experiences. Thanks again and wishing you a safe and wonderful trip in August! Do share your experiences with us when you get back. 😀

  8. Shaun says: Reply

    Hi, thanks for the advice. By the way, how do you contact Ganda from Kg Sing Inn? And may I know how much exactly was the ijen crater midnight tour for 1 person?

    1. Hi Shaun,

      Ganda of Kampung Osing Inn can be contacted via website at http://www.kampungosing.com/ or Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/kampungosing/

      He quoted us an approximately Rp. 400,000 per person (minimum four people in a group) for the Ijen Blue Fire Midnight Tour. The fee includes the rent of a gas mask, a bottle of mineral water, an experienced guide and entrance fee. For a detailed account of the event, read this blog post of mine: http://erikaevatohtravels.com/2015/06/4d3n-backpacking-bromo-ijen-without-a-tour-part-4-hiking-kawah-ijen-in-the-dark-to-find-the-electric-blue-sulphur-flames/

      Do contact Ganda for the exact and up-to-date price for the tour, ya? I hope that helps. 🙂

  9. Shaun says: Reply

    Hi, thanks for this amazing guide. I’ll follow your itinerary for my trip on this coming August. May I know whether you did book train tickets in advance? Or you purchase upon arrive at the station?

    1. Hi Shaun,

      You’re welcome, I’m happy it helps. I didn’t book the train tickets in advance and purchased it at the station because I’m confident that we could get the train tickets on the day itself as we were travelling during the low season. However, it’s best to book ahead especially during the high season or festivities to avoid any disappointments.

      There are two ways to purchase the train tickets:
      –> On-the-spot at the ticket counter when you arrive OR
      –> Online via http://en.tiket.com/ for foreigners (accepts overseas credit cards)
      –> Online via Kereta-api.co.id for Indonesians (accepts only Indonesian credit cards)

      With that, I wish you a safe and wonderful journey to East Java! All the best to you! 🙂

  10. Faiz says: Reply


    I’m travelling alone from Surabaya, to Ijen and Bromo, any advice for solo traveller?

    Thanks! 🙂

    1. Hi Faiz,

      You can find lots of advice and tips throughout my Bromo and Ijen blog post series. In fact, the blog post above – 4D/3N Backpacking Bromo & Ijen Without A Tour (via Public Transportation) Complete Travel Itinerary & Expenses should give you a kick-start into your East Java trip.

      My highly sought-after and widely used 4D/3N Backpacking Bromo & Ijen Without A Tour (via Public Transportation) Grab & Go Travel Itinerary, as well as all the relevant blog posts and information are available here:

      Do give it a read. The itinerary and extensive information provided in my blog posts has guided and helped many travellers whether solo, in pairs or groups to plan and embark on their journey to Ijen and Bromo successfully. If they can do it, so can you. 🙂

      With that, I wish you a safe journey and enjoy your trip to East Java! Do keep an open mind and happy travels!

  11. Hi Khairul,

    You're welcome. Thank you for reading my travel blog and finding the information shared useful. If given the choice, yes it is definitely better to visit and fly back from Bali if you're coming from Banyuwangi. Your Surabaya – Bromo – Ijen – Banyuwangi – Bali itinerary is what most travellers do when they're travelling to East Java and it's a good travel itinerary.

    Mine was the opposite-round-way trip because my sister and I went to Bali before, plus we only had 4 days worth of travel, so we made the best out of it. I wish you a safe journey and enjoy your trip to East Java! Do research about your destinations and plan your trip well for part of the fun is the journey itself. 🙂

  12. hello..thank you for this informative writing about bromo and ijen
    i want to sk your opinion…is it better to fly back from Bali which is near to bayuwangi rather then making a circle back to surabaya? i planning to go there in dec 2015: Surabaya-bromo-ijen-bayuwangi-bali

  13. Hello Miss A,

    Welcome back, it's good to hear from you again! I'm so happy to know that you had the best hiking trip in your life in East Java. Nothing makes me happier than to see more travellers like you being empowered with helpful knowledge and information, and as a result, have the best trip of their life. Happy max! 😀

    Like you, I enjoyed and love the view at Ijen and Bromo (minus the crowds of course). Haha!! And thank you for your well wishes and encouragement, I appreciate it much. I will do my best to provide more helpful tips and travel information to new destinations around Asia and all over the world too. As I said, we don't need to be rich to afford travelling around the world. All it takes is some research, proper planning, valuable information and a bit of luck, and we're good to go! Let's go backpacking in style and enjoy life to the fullest, together! Cheers! 😉

  14. Miss A says: Reply

    Hai Erika, just got the chance to write back to you. Well, what can i say more, our trip to Ijen & Bromo was no doubt the best hiking trip ever for three of us! I would say I love love love Mt Ijen for its magnificent view at the top (literally hate the part that we had to hike down so early after the sun came out 🙁 ) even though we did not go down to the edge of crater for blue fire (too lazy or too scared, cant decide! :D). Meanwhile the sunrise at Bromo was quite disappointing (yet so scenic if you just enjoy the view without trying to capture any photos of sunrise..sigh) due to the place was crowded but then later the trip to the top of Mt Bromo really made my day! And yes we saved a lot of money by backpacking & made new friends along the way. Your blog really helps us a lot in making the trip successful, look forward to read your new adventure!

    Thanks Erika. Wish you have more awesome trips in the future 🙂

  15. We started walking/hiking back around 5.30am and reached the inn around 8.30am. We enjoyed the sunrise along the way. It wasn't possible to stay longer else we'll miss the train. I remember rushing to grab our belongings in our room and jumped onto the jeep headed to the train station. Luckily, it was just 5-10 minutes away, and we successfully took the 9.15am train to Probolinggo.

    It is important to inform the guide/driver and the other travellers that you're rushing for time, so they'll make haste. Unless you, your friends and the rest of the group walk/hike super fast to make up for lost time, it's always wise to hike back earlier. It is also wise to not stay too long in the crater for safety precautions – think highly flammable toxic fumes, possible sudden explosions, gas poisoning, etc. Keep watch of the time, but do take the time to enjoy the journey and the view. 😉

    I hope that helps. All the best and safe travels, Miss A!

    1. Ray says: Reply

      Hi , Erica ,

      Any chance contact you on WhatsApp?


      1. Hi Ray,

        I’ve replied to you via email. Please check your inbox. 🙂

        Best regards,

  16. Miss A says: Reply

    Will do share once i get back :D. What time did you hike down to Paltuding base and reached Osing Inn? I've checked the sunrise on my travel day will be on 0550am so i guess i wont make it for sunrise since obviously will hike down 0530am (considering for 2 hrs hike down + 1 hr journey from base to Osing Inn). Probably will catch the view during the hike down. Is that still acceptable, i mean the gorgeous view during hiking down? Any advise to tweak this? Thanks a lot Erika 😀

  17. Hi Miss A,

    I'm happy to know that the information shared on my travel blog became a source of inspiration and guide for your Ijen & Bromo trip. I'm sure with proper planning, precaution and a bit of luck, you and your friends will have a wonderful and memorable trip!

    With regards to your question, yes, you can arrange with them so that you and your friends will arrive at the train station on time. Be sure to inform Ganda, the tour guide/driver as well as the rest of the travellers in the group with you that you need to catch the early morning train to Probolinggo. That way, they will be able to arrange their time accordingly and make it back on time. My sister and I did just that and we happily made it on time. 🙂

    Please check with Ganda on the Karangasem – Probolinggo morning train schedule/available trains on the date of your planned departure to avoid any disappointments. You can purchase the tickets on the spot, at the train station itself when you arrive. Have your passport with you for identification and purchasing purposes.

    I wish you all the best in your Ijen & Bromo trip! Keep an open and positive mind for anything that goes beyond your control and enjoy the journey to the max! Do share your experience with me when you get back from East Java! 😀

  18. Miss A says: Reply

    Hai erika, i will be having a trip to Ijen & Bromo next month, really appreciate your blog and i've reread like so many times. FYI, i will just follow and make your blog as a guide for me and my two ladies friend. We have booked Kg Osing Inn as well, just wondering can we arrange with them so that we will arrived on time at train station to catch the Probolinggo ride?I mean to arrange it so that we don't hike down too late..is this possible since we will be sharing with other travellers?

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